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Yes! The main reason behind having a FAQ is so that people don't keep asking the same old questions day after day after day..... It frees up fans for discussions about new topics & such, and keeps them from having to rehash old debates/arguments for the 252nd time. Yes, there's a helluva lot of stuff to read here, but there's a lot that new fans may want to know right off that they'll find right here.
This FAQ is rapidly turning from a list of common questions to a net-generated Pink Floyd Reference Work. It is heartily recommended that you keep a copy nearby, either on-line or printed.
In early 1991, David Schuetz began to tire of seeing the same questions appearing in public forums. In late April, the FAQ was formally begun, and it was his "baby" for nearly three years. In those years, it grew from just a few pages to more than 60! In late 1993, it became apparent that David just didn't have the time to work on it anymore (for reasons far too numerous to mention). In early 1994, David published the final version of the FAQ that he'd be responsible for (version 2.9).
Then bear (H.W. Neff, the administrator of the echoes mailing list) ran it for several months, before passing it on to me (Matt). Which is where things now stand...
Let me know! Send me email at: mdenault@pomona.edu or echoes-faq@fawnya.tcs.com
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Whenever I get enough material to justify a new version, I'll post to both echoes and the newsgroup to discuss anything that may be controvertial. Assuming there are no serious objections, they'll then go into the next version. My judgement is, of course, final in all FAQ matters.
On the net, and throughout this FAQ, there are in use quite a few abbreviations. We're lazy people, and don't like to type more than we have to. So, to help you understand what follows:
Any others should (hopefully!) be understandable from the context.
Pink Floyd is not a person, they are a band. There are five main people that are associated with the name Pink Floyd. These are (along with their birthdays),
About 1965, the Floyd-to-be formed as "Sigma 6." They then changed to "The T-Set" ("Tea Set"), then "The Meggadeaths," "The Architectural Abdabs," "The Screaming Abdabs," and simply "The Abdabs." At this point, the band's membership consisted of:
The Abdabs mostly played rhythm and blues songs. Juliette later married Wright, and she, Noble, and Metcalf all quit the band. Waters then brought in Bob Close and Syd Barrett for guitars, then later Close left, leaving the original recorded Pink Floyd lineup. In late '65, they became "The Pink Floyd Sound," then just "The Pink Floyd." The name Pink Floyd came from albums by two blues artists, Pink Anderson and Floyd Council, that were in Syd Barrett's collection. It had often been said that using the name came to Syd in a vision.
The Floyd began to attract attention in mid-1966, frequently playing such underground hangouts as The UFO Club and The Marquee Club's Spontaneous Underground. It was during this time that they made the transition from playing psychedelic R&B covers to doing their own songs; almost exclusively Syd Barrett compositions. As Floyd biographer Miles has said about this period, "The Floyd were the loudest band anyone had ever heard at that time. They were also the weirdest. They were the underground band."
The Floyd's growing underground popularity led to a single, "Arnold Layne," released in March of 1967. It entered the British charts at #20, resulting in national media exposure for the band. Their followup single, "See Emily Play," stayed on the charts for 7 weeks, reaching #6. The Pink Floyd's first LP, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, also remained on the charts for 7 weeks, and also reached #6.
The success that followed their first two singles and Piper proved to be too much for Syd, as the vast quantities of drugs he was taking in, the blind worship of his fans, and other factors all made him unpredictable on stage and in the studio. The other members of the group decided to bring in an additional guitarist to cover for Syd, and thus David Gilmour was asked to join the band (Jeff Beck was also considered, but the band was in awe of him, and thought he would command too high a price). Gilmour (not the same as jazz musician David Gilmore ;) had established a reputation as a guitarist and vocalist in the group "The Jokers Wild" (see Q6).
With the addition of Gilmour and Syd's declining state, it was shortly decided that the band could carry on without him, and so one night they simply didn't pick him up on the way to a show. Barrett went on to record two solo albums (with the assistance of the Floyd's members), and while he remained (and remains) a cult hero, he never achieved the musical popularity on his own that he did with the group. (See P4Q34 for more on Barrett.)
Pink Floyd, meanwhile (having shed the "The" part of their name along with Syd), went on to be fantastically successful, follwing a somewhat rough start sans Barrett. They continued as a foursome from Saucerful through Animals; it was during the Wall sessions that Rick Wright was forced out of the group (See P3Q30). By this time as well the lyrical and conceptual ambitions of Waters were clashing full on with the musical ideas of Gilmour; on the subsequent Final Cut album, Gilmour acted as essentially a session musician. At that point, it seemed impossible that they would ever work together again, and thus Pink Floyd was seen as dead. To heighten this impression, both Waters and Gilmour produced solo albums, neither of which did terribly well on the charts or as draws for the tours the two embarked on.
What happened next is more fully detailed in P4, Q7. In short, Waters decided to officially leave the group; Gilmour and Mason subsequently decided to record an album under the Pink Floyd name. Waters, who thought the name best layed to rest, sued them over its use.
Waters also remained active musically, following up his first solo album, Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, with contributions to the little known movie soundtrack, "When the Wind Blows." His next solo album was Radio KAOS, for which he again toured. Again, neither was a great success commercially; certainly not by Pink Floyd standards. Later, in 1990, he staged what was certainly one of the more memorable music "events" in recent history, with his Wall in Berlin charity concert. His most recent work, Amused to Death, was not the sales success it was hoped it would be, despite much commercial hype. This was to the great disappointment of many of his fans, who thought that AtD was his best work yet. See P4Q33 for some information on Waters' current activities.
Meanwhile, Pink Floyd did not die, certainly not legally, and in the minds of many fans, not in spirit either. Their first post-Waters release, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, went on to become a major success, and the 2 1/2 member Floyd followed it up with an extensive world tour. After several years off, the group, now with a full three members (see P4Q25), released The Division Bell, and embarked on another tour.
...which is where things stand right now, pretty much. For the latest rumors
of what lies ahead, check out the "Rumor Mill" question, P 4Q33.
Understandably, all these changes can cause a bit of confusion. Here then is a "family tree" of the band. Band names are in double quotes ("this is a band"), and album names are in all caps towards the right (THIS IS AN ALBUM, sometimes abbreviated).
"The Mottoes" Geoff Mott (Motlow) Syd Barrett Nobby Clarke Clive Wellham Tony Santi vocals guitar guitar drums bass -------+-----------------+----------------------------+---------------+---- | | | | to "Boston Crabs" to "Hollering Blues" +---+-----------+ (vocals) (bass) | | | | "The Ramblers" | "Joker's Wild" | John Gordon John Altham | David Gilmour rhythm guitar, sax, Clive Wellham | Tony Santi guitar guitar keyboards drums | bass -----+----------------------------------------------------+----------- | | to "The Flowers" "Sigma Six" and then "Bullitt" "T-Set" "Megadeaths" "Architectual Abdabs" "Screaming Abdabs" "Abdabs" Richard Wright Clive Metcalf Keith Noble Roger Waters rhythm g. Nick Mason bass Juliette Gale vocals lead guitar drums vocals -----------.-.-.------------------------------------------------------------ \|/ | "Blues Anonymous" | | | "The Pink Floyd Sound" | Roger Waters | Richard Wright Nick Mason Syd Barrett Bob Close bass | keyboards, cello drums guitar guitar -------------+--------------.-.-.-------------------------------------- \|/ | | | "The Pink Floyd" Syd Barrett Roger Waters | Richard Wright Nick Mason PIPER guitar bass | keyboards drums ----------------------------+-+--------------------------- | | "Bullitt" | | | "Pink Floyd" Roger Waters David Gilmour | Syd Barrett Richard Wright Nick Mason ASoS bass guitar | guitar keyboards drums ----------------------------+--------------------------------------- | | | | "Pink Floyd" Roger Waters David Gilmour | Richard Wright Nick Mason MORE, UMMAGUMMA, bass guitar | keyboards drums AHM, MEDDLE, OBC, ----------------------------+------+------------------- DSotM, WYWH, | | ANIMALS, WALL | | | +------------------------+ | | | "Pink Floyd" | Roger Waters David Gilmour | Nick Mason TFC | bass guitar | drums | "Zee" IDENTITY ----------------------------+------------ Dave Harris | Richard Wright | guitar | keyboards | ------------+-------+-------- | | | "Pink Floyd" | David Gilmour | Nick Mason AMLoR | guitar | drums | --------------+------------- | | | | +---------------+ | | | "Pink Floyd" | David Gilmour | Nick Mason Richard Wright DSoT, TDB guitar | drums keyboards --------------+------------------------------ | | ?????????
Without starting a detailed discography, here is a list of all albums released by Pink Floyd as a band. Following that is a list of other albums on which Floyd appears, then a list of solo albums:
The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 5 August 1967 A Saucerful of Secrets 29 June 1968 More 27 July 1969 Ummagumma 25 October 1969 Atom Heart Mother 10 October 1970 Meddle 11 November 1971 Obscured by Clouds 3 June 1972 The Dark Side of the Moon 24 March 1973 Wish You Were Here 15 September 1975 Animals 23 January 1977 The Wall 30 November 1979 The Final Cut 21 March 1983 A Momentary Lapse of Reason 8 September 1987 Delicate Sound of Thunder 22 November 1988 The Division Bell 30 March 1994NOTE: Release dates are for original UK issues.
[a "#" indicates that the collection is not currently available on CD]#Best of Pink Floyd 1970* (compilation, Dutch) #Relics 1971 (compilation w/"Biding My Time") #A Nice Pair 1973 (Piper & ASoS as double-lp) #Dark Side of the Moon 1973 (DJ Promo EP w/4 songs) #Tour '75 1975+ (DJ Promo--studio tracks) #Off the Wall 1979 (DJ Promo EP) A Collection of Great Dance Songs 1981 (compilation) Pink Floyd Hits 198?% (compilation, Brazilian) Works 1983 (compilation, w/"Embryo") Shine On - Special 9 CD Box Set 1992& (re-masters and early singles) Shine On - Selections from the Box 1992^ Dark Side of the Moon XX 1993 (special 20th anniversary ed.)* Rereleased throughout Europe as "Masters of Rock, Vol. 1" in 1974
% Brazilian version of ACoGDS with "The Gunner's Dream" in place of "One of These Days."
+ Capitol's attempt to get back catalog moving. Contained: "The Gold It's in the....," "Wots...Uh The Deal," "Free Four," "Fat Old Sun," "One of These Days," "Astronomy Domine," and "Careful With That Axe, Eugene."
& Contains re-mastered CDs of: ASoS, Meddle, DSotM, WYWH, Animals, Wall, AAMLoR, and a CD (mostly mono) of their first 5 singles. Also includes a nice hardcover book, several "postcards," and "minimalist" packaging for the albums themselves. See also Question 7.
^ Contains "See Emily Play," "Set the Controls...," "OoTD," "Money," "SOYCD [edit]," "Dogs," "Comfortably Numb," "ABITW2," and "One Slip."
Honorable Mention
Objects of Fantasy/Orchestral Maneuvers 1989 [See Q8] Hits of PF: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra 1994 [See Q8] Beyond the Wildwood: A Tribute to Syd Barrett 1987* Trance Remixes 199? [See Q20.5] ?Discoballs: A Tribute to Pink Floyd 19??^* Features "No Good Trying" (The Mock Turtles), "Octopus" (Plasticland), "Arnold Layne" (SS-20), "Matilda Mother" (Paul Roland), "She Took a Long Cold Look" (Fit and Limo), "Long Gone" (The Shamen), "If the Sun Don't Shine" (Opal -- inspired by "Jugband Blues"), "Baby Lemonade" (The Ashes in the Morning), "Wolfpack" (The Lobster Quadrille), "Golden Hair" (The Paint Set), "No Man's Land" (Tropicana Fishtank), "Apples and Oranges" (The TV Personalities), "Two of a Kind" (The Soup Dragons), and "Scream Thy Last Scream" (The Green Telescope).
^ Album of disco covers by French group Rosebud. Includes "Have a Cigar," "Free Four," "Summer '68," "Interstellar Overdrive," "Money," "One of these Days," "Arnold Layne," and the "Main Theme" from More.
Other Albums On Which Floyd are Featured
Tonite Let's All Make Love In London (soundtrack) 1968 Zabriskie Point (soundtrack) 1970 #Picnic (Harvest label sampler - "Terrapin," "Embryo") 1970 Rock Goes to the Movies (Z-Point songs) 19?? ?Harvest Heritage - 20 Greats ("Octopus") 19?? ?Supertracks ("Money") 19?? ?The Summit ("Welcome to the Machine") 19?? ?The Harvest Story Vol. 1 ("Love You") 19?? ?Filmtracks - The Best of British Film Music (ABitW) 19?? ?Rock Legends (edited "Money" from US single) 19?? ?The New Spirit of Capitol ("Astronomy Domine") 19?? ?Before the Fall ("Baby Lemonade" from BBC sessions) 19?? #The Heavyweights ("Have a Cigar") 19?? #Quadrafile ("Money") 1976 #Four Temas De Film (BtBBH - Wall movie version) 198? Knebworth: The Album ("Comfortably Numb" and RLH) 1990 A CD Full of Secrets 199? Superstar Concert Series: Pink Floyd at Knebworth 1990 1992
Solo Albums
Syd Barrett The Madcap Laughs 1970 Syd Barrett Barrett 1970 Roger Waters Music from The Body 1970* #Syd Barrett Syd Barrett 1974** David Gilmour David Gilmour 1978 Richard Wright Wet Dream 1978 Nick Mason Ficticious Sports 1981^ David Gilmour About Face 1984 Roger Waters Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking 1984 #Zee Identity 1984+ Nick Mason Profiles 1985++ Roger Waters When The Wind Blows (sndtk) 1986& Roger Waters Radio Kaos 1987 Syd Barrett The Peel Sessions (EP) 1988&& Syd Barrett Opel (compilation/rare tracks) 1988 Roger Waters The Wall--Live Berlin 1990 Syd Barrett Octopus ("Best of") 1992 Roger Waters Amused to Death 1992 Syd Barrett Crazy Diamond (Box Set) 1993^* With Ron Geesin, a soundtrack
** Madcap and Barrett repackaged as a double album
^ Essentially a Carla Bley solo album -- Mason plays, but wasn't involved in the writing.
+ Zee was a band comprised of Richard Wright and Dave Harris
++ With Rick Fenn of 10cc, and features Gilmour with vocals on one track
& Second side of album features Waters & Bleeding Heart Band (the first time the band was called such)
&& Features "Two of a Kind," which was probably a Rick wright song. ^^ Madcap, Barrett, and Opel packaged with alternate takes of the album songs. This was not available in the US until 1994, except as an import.
Interview Discs
There are also several interview picture discs floating around, both on vinyl and on CD, but beware--some of them feature pictures of old (Syd-era) Floyd, but contain interviews with AMLoR-era Floyd members.
[example: the "Limited Edition Picture Disc Interview," part of the TALKING PICTURE series, lists two tracks:
Interview 1981 [discussing The Wall & beginnings of film]
Interview 1986 [discussing AMLoR]The disc has pictures of very young Roger, Nick, Syd, and Rick.]
[If anyone has any transcripts of these or other interview discs, I'd like a copy for the archives.]
5. What videos can I find of Pink Floyd? +
In addition to what's listed, the music of Pink Floyd and its members has appeared in several films of uncertain availability (Music Power, Stamping Ground, Rock 'n Roll--The Greatest Years:1967, San Francisco, Rock City, White of the Eye, Life Could be a Dream), and members of the group have made several guest appearances at concerts (Deep End, Amnesty International Big 30, The Secret Policeman's Third Ball, Columbian Volcano Concert, Seville, Walden Woods benefit show, etc.), some of which are available. There have also been a bunch of other short "cameos" (like Gilmour on Popquiz (on several occasions), and on Saturday Night Live (12/12/87)). Finally, music from Pink Floyd is used fairly frequently as "incidentals" on TV shows, news programs, and feature films.
5.1 Concert Videos and Official Floyd/Solo Releases +
- KQED Concert
- There was a PBS "concert" recorded by KQED TV at the end of April, 1970. They played "Atom Heart Mother," "Careful With That Axe, Eugene," "Cymbaline," "Green is the Colour," "Granchester Meadows," and "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun."
- "Pink Floyd--Live at Pompeii"
- A "concert" filmed in an ancient ampitheatre in Pompeii on October 4th-7th, 1971; with interviews and some studio shots of Floyd working on DSotM that were added later. Features "Echoes," "Careful With That Axe, Eugene," "One of These Days I'm Going To Cut You Into Little Pieces," "Madmoiselle Knobs," "A Saucerful of Secrets" and "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun."
Available only on video: VHS and LaserDisc (NTSC/PAL)- "Pink Floyd--The Wall"
- The film version of The Wall, directed by Alan Parker, starring Bob Geldof. Includes all of The Wall, minus "Hey You," plus "When The Tigers Broke Free," and with "Empty Spaces" replaced by "What Shall We Do Now?"
Available on video only: VHS and LaserDisc (NTSC/PAL)
A deluxe letterboxed version from a new transfer on LaserDisc is now available (in CLV format). Also includes the "Original Theatrical Trailer."- "Pink Floyd: London 66-67"
- 30 minute video featuring footage of the Floyd at the UFO Club, the Technicolour Dream Extravaganza, and in the studio. Contains "Nick's Boogie" and "Interstellar Overdrive." Promo for the "Tonite Let's All Make Love in London" film.
Available on video: VHS (NTSC)- "Pink Floyd--The Final Cut EP"
- Video EP of the final cut. Contains "the gunners dream," "the final cut," "not now john," and "the fletcher memorial home."
Available on video: VHS Hi-Fi (PAL).- "Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" (Roger Waters)
- Video EP of the solo album
- "David Gilmour--About Face Tour"
- Concert video of Gilmour's first solo tour ,with "Until We Sleep," "All Lovers are Derranged," "There's No Way Out Of Here," "Short and Sweet," "Run Like Hell," "Out of the Blue," "Blue Light," "Murder," and "Comfortably Numb." With special guest appearances of Roy Harper ("Short and Sweet") and Nick Mason (drums on "Comfortably Numb"). Also two music videos ("Blue Light" and "All Lovers are Derranged") and a 30 minute documentary segment.
Available only on video: VHS (NTSC)- "Radio KAOS" (Roger Waters)
- Four MTV-style videos. Includes "Radio Waves," "Sunset Strip," "The fish report with a beat," "4 Minutes," and "The Tide is Turning (live)."
Available on video: VHS and LaserDisc (CAV)- "Delicate Sound of Thunder"
- Video of the DSoT concert, filmed over two nights at Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, New York (with bits from Versailles, France). They played "Shine On...," "Signs of Life," "Learning to Fly," "Sorrow," "The Dogs of War," "On the Turning Away," "One of these Days...," "Time," "On the Run," "The Great Gig in the Sky," "Wish You Were Here," "Us and Them," "Money," "Comfortably Numb," "One Slip," "Run Like Hell," and "Shine On...(reprise)"
Available on audio and video: VHS and LaserDisc (NTSC/PAL) (PAL versions omit "Money") Audio versions have slightly modified track lists. Also available as an MPEG-1 "multimedia" CD-ROM.- "The Wall--Live In Berlin 1990" (Roger Waters)
- Video of the Wall performance in Berlin. Features Waters and the Bleeding Heart Band, as well as numerous others, performing The Wall, minus "The Show Must Go On" and "Outside the Wall," and with the addition of "What Shall We Do Now" and "The Tide is Turning."
Available on audio and video: VHS and LaserDisc (NTSC/PAL)- "Knebworth '90"
- Pink Floyd played "Shine On You Crazy Diamond," "Sorrow," "Wish You Were Here," "The Great Gig in the Sky," (with Clare Torrey) "Money," "Comfortably Numb," and "Run Like Hell."
Available on audio and video: VHS and LaserDisc (Both feature only "Comfortably Numb" and "Run Like Hell") The full audio is available on Westwood One's "Superstar Concert Series." Also, video of all but TGGitS and "Money" were broadcast by MTV.- "La Carrera Panamericana"
- A movie, produced by Steve O'Rourke (their manager), about a classic auto race up a highway in Mexico. Dave, Steve, Nick, and some other chap all race in the film, which includes some instrumentals & new music from Floyd (see item on "Didn't They Get In A Crash And Nearly Mangle Themselves To Death?") Tracks: "Run Like Hell," "Pan Am Shuffle," "Yet Another Movie," "Sorrow," "Signs of Life," "Country Theme," "Mexico '78," "Big Theme," "Run Like Hell," "One Slip," "Small Theme," and "Carrera Slow Blues." The band: David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Rick Wright, Jon Carin, Gary Wallis, Guy Pratt, Tim Renwick.
Available on video only: VHS and LaserDisc (NTSC)- "What God Wants pt. 1" (Roger Waters)
- 20 minute film showing both versions of the video and a short interview with Waters, conducted by Jim Ladd.
Available on Japanese 8" LaserDisc and VHS
5.2 Feature Films +
- "The Committee" (1968):
- [From Scott Frank--how does he FIND these things?] This movie takes place on the "Planet Craytic," and features music by Pink Floyd and The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The plot has been described as follows: "Fantasy - Murderous hitch-hiker summoned by strange committee."
Neither audio or video has ever beleased.- "Tonight Let's All Make Love in London" (1968):
- A "documentary" of the underground life in London in the late 60's. Features a 16-minute version of Interstellar Overdrive, as well as multitudes of interviews.
Two full soundtracks are available; one with bits and pieces of Floyd performing, and the other with the complete "Interstellar Overdrive" and "Nick's Boogie." A "Mini-Promo" soundtrack is also availble on CD, with the complete versions of these two songs.
Video was scheduled to be released, but I don't know if it has been.- "More" (1969):
- [from Geoff Rimmer]
Supposedly an anti-drugs film. Naive German guy arrives in Paris, meets up with another guy who shows him around and takes him to a party. He meets a girl there [IMHO she is absolutely gorgeous! Worth watching the film just for her!]. He goes round her place where she teaches him to smoke grass. They go off to Malta, and sniff coke, drop acid and inject H. The acid makes her freak out, screaming at him, saying he's the devil etc. The guy is obviously getting addicted to the H - keeps wanting more and more (hence film's title) and eventually ODs in a dark alley.Available on video: VHS Soundtrack available as part of Floyd's regular catalog (but slightly different -- lacks "Seabirds" and "Hollywood" found in the movie, and has Dave singing "Cymbaline" {with slighly different lyrics as well}. Also note that the lyrics to "Seabirds" are different than those in the songbook).- "Zabriskie Point" (1970):
- [from Toapher]
I'm the first one to admit that Z Point is not your mainstream, top quality movie, but that does not mean that it's not worth seeing. It does move rather slowly and the plot is not what I would call rivetting. But what's important is to understand the era in which it was made. The movie was filmed in 1969. This was near the peak of civil unrest in this country [the US]. While the acting might not be academy award material, the movie is a very accurate portrayal of the trials and tribulations of the youth subculture. We tend to look back at the 60's in a very romantic light, but the truth is that it must have been a very difficult time for everyone. Z Point tries to shed some light on that aspect of the era, rther than just portray it in the "Summer Of Love" way.
In addition, there is a sub-plot that pervades the movie. The words to "Crumbling Land" indicate that The Floyd were aware of this and understood what that sub-plot was about. The female lead worked for a group of land developers who were working on creating a community in the desert. They were trying to take a piece of land that was not capable of sustaining human life and transforming it. This required robbing resources from nearby ecosystems, destroying the natural habitats on the site, and polluting an otherwise clean area. The "famous" sex scene that took place at Zabriskie Point itself was a celebration of the natural beauty and purity of the undisturbed landscape.Available as soundtrack and on video: VHS- "The Body" (1970)
- Unconventional biology documentary that Waters co-wrote the score for (along with Ron Geesin). He also narrated one scene.
Soundtrack (re-recorded) available.- "La Valle" (1972): (also called The Valley Obscured By Clouds)
- [Geoff Rimmer again]
A woman wants to obtain some rare bird feathers and goes on an expedition with some guys up a mountain. They are going to search for a place no one has previously mapped (this is because the area is obscured by clouds) called The Valley. The woman gets the feathers, decides to go back alone, changes her mind and continues with the rest in search of The Valley. After much walking they are running out of food and the air is becoming thin - they are exhausted. Then, someone says "I see the Valley". End of film.Available on video: VHS
Soundtrack available as part of Floyd's regular catalog (with slightly different lyrics on "Free Four." -- see P2Q22)- "Crystal Voyager" (1975):
- Apparently a surfing film. Only reason for inclusion is film's use of "Echoes," in its entireity.
Available on video: VHS- "The Fantastic Animation Festival" (1975)
- A collection of animated shorts, the first called "French Windows." Also found on the "Video Anthology," this was by filmmaker Ian Eames and was accompanied throughout by "One of these Days".
Available (though out-of-print) on video: VHS- "When the Wind Blows" (1986)
- Animated film directed by Jimmi Mukarami, based on the book by Raymond Briggs, about an elderly couple who survive a nuclear assault. Roger and the Bleeding Heart Band contributed "The Russian Missile," "Towers of Faith," "Hilda's Dream," "The American Bomber," "The Anderson Shelter," "The British Submarine," "The Attack," "The Fallout," "Hilda's Hair," and "Folded Flags."
Soundtrack available (though rather rare). Was available on video: LaserDisc (out of print), VHS (Live Home Video, 1-800-326-1977)
5.3 Promotional/MTV videos and other 'shorts' +
First, a list of official promotional videos:
- "Arnold Layne"
- "Apples and Oranges"
- "See Emily Play"
- "Astronomy Domine"
- "The Scarecrow"
- "Point Me At The Sky"
- "Learning to Fly" (story and live stuff)
- "Dogs of War" (story and live stuff)
- "One Slip" (from La Carrera Panamericana)
- "On the Turning Away" (from DSoT video)
- "One of These Days" (from DSoT video)
- "Comfortably Numb" (from DSoT video)
- "Welcome to the Machine" (Gerald Scarfe animation)
- "Brain Damage/Eclipse" (story)
- "Another Brick in the Wall Part II" (from Wall movie)
- "When The Tigers Broke Free" (from Wall movie)
- "A Lie for a Lie"
- "Blue Light"
- "Sexual Revolution"
- "Every Strangers Eyes"
- "What God Wants part I" (lots of aminals/studio shots -- two versions)
- "Three Wishes"
- "Take it Back" (nature scenes/story)
- "High Hopes" (concert film)
There are also several rare, rather short film clips of interest. One is "Syd Barrett's First Trip," and is a short 8mm film of just that. It was taken by Nigel Gordon, a student friend of Syd's. Another is a recording of the Floyd outside Abbey Road Studios in April 1967, after signing their first EMI recording contract. The final one is a short promotional film for Gilmour's first solo album, and features him in the studio performing "No Way," "There's No Way Out Of Here," "I Can't Breathe Anymore," and "So Far Away."
Finally, there's lots of stuff out there in the non-official markets. A popular example of such material is the "Video Anthology" which collects many of the visual works by Pink Floyd. Unfortunately, it is a RoIO, and lacks as much in terms of quality as it does legality. However, here is the listing of bits on that tape, if only to provide a better idea of what videos Floyd have done [provided by Scott Frank]:
- "Arnold Layne" (excerpt from promo)
- "Interstellar Overdrive" (excerpt from Granada TV)
- "Syd Barrett Interview" (BBC - ~30 secs long)
- "The Scarecrow" (Pathe Newsreel)
- "Apples and Oranges" (promo - the one w/ Roger lip-synching)
- "See Emily Play" (promo)
- "A Saucerful of Secrets" (excerpts from 1968 & mid 70's)
- "Astronomy Domine" (promo)
- "The Scarecrow" (promo)
- "Set The Controls..." (excerpts from 1968)
- "Point Me At The Sky" (promo)
- "Atom Heart Mother" (Tokyo)
- "Cymbaline" (KQED Studios 1970)
- "Set The Controls..." (Holland Pop Festival)
- "A Saucerful Of Secrets" (Holland Pop Festival)
- "One Of These Days" (from animated film "French Windows")
- "Careful With That Axe, Eugene" (Australian TV 1971)
- "Set The Controls..." (from "Heart Of The Sun" film - 1973)
- "Careful With That Axe, Eugene" ("Superstars In Concert" - 1973)
- "Brain Damage/Eclipse" (backdrop film - from MTV Weekend)
- "Welcome To The Machine" (backdrop film - from MTV Weekend)
- "Pigs On The Wing" (Battersea Power Station)
- "The Happiest Days Of Our Lives" (live in London - 1980)
- "Another Brick In The Wall - part II" (promo)
- "A Collection Of Great Dance Songs" (TV Commercial)
- "Pink Floyd The Wall" (theatrical trailer)
- "When The Tigers Broke Free" (promo)
- "The Gunner's Dream" (from the "Final Cut" video EP)
- "The Final Cut" (same as above)
- "Not Now John" (same as above)
- "The Fletcher Memorial Home" (same as above)
- "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" (US TV AD)
- "Learning To Fly" - Version #1 (promo)
- "On The Turning Away" (live promo)
- "Dogs Of War" (live promo - from Pink Floyd Weekend, I think)
- "Signs of Life" (excerpt - from Pink Floyd Weekend on MTV)
- "One Slip" (live promo - Italian TV)
- "Learning To Fly" - Version #2 (promo)
- "Win A Plane" (MTV contest)
5.4Films shown in concert
This is a list of some of the films that Pink Floyd have shown in concert:
- "Welcome to the Machine" - Surreal landscape, with a scorpion that likes to behead people, waves of blood that turn into teeming masses clamoring at tall marble towers.
- "Time" - Blue sky, hundreds of clocks ticking along, merging, dissolving, etc.
- "Us & Them" - Started with a film about people crossing the street.
- "Brain Damage/Eclipse" - Politicians giving speeches. Updated (Reagan, Bush, etc.) for '94.
- "Signs of Life" - Someone canoeing and swimming along a river.
- "Yet Another Movie" - The "You're getting on that plane" scene from "Casablanca."
- "Dogs of War" - A video of dogs attacking, finally running up the stage (same camera-movement as at the start of "Shine On...")
- "Learning to Fly" - Runway/flight scenes.
- "Pigs on the Wing" - Pig being launched and floating over the Battersea Power Station.
- "High Hopes" - White bouncing balls, giant teddy bears, giant flags/capes, guitars flowing down a river, etc.
- "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" - Boy growing to young man amid surreal landscape. Includes a bit with an orange, plum and a matchbox, the relevence of which is explained by the "Crazy Diamond" book: [Extracted from an interview with Ian Moore:]
"We got hold of some liquid LSD bottles, laid out hundreds of sugar cubes in rows and put two drops on each. But the stuff was so strong we were absorbing it through our fingers, or more likely by licking it off them. As it took effect we had no idea which cubes we had done, so many of them probably got double doses while the rest did not have any. Syd had his plum, orange and matchbox and was sitting staring at them during his trip. Whatever he was into was his whole world - to him the plum was the planet Venus and the orange was Jupiter. Syd was floating in space between them."- "The Great Gig in the Sky" - Two versions, one animated and one with water and waves.
- "Marooned" - Whale swimming around in the ocean.
6. Did the bands who preceeded Pink Floyd ever make any records?
Of all the permutations that Pink Floyd went through, none were ever commercially successful. The only band which even released anything was Joker's Wild, Gilmour's old band. Their record was a one-sided LP, which contained all cover versions:
- Beautiful Delilah (Chuck Berry)
- Why Do Fools Fall In Love (Frankie Lymon)
- Don't You Ask Me (Manfred Mann's arrangement)
- Sherry (The Four Seasons)
- Big Girls Don't Cry (The Four Seasons)
It has been reported that this "LP" was limited to only about 50 copies, and has recently sold for as much as #1000 (approx. $1800 US).
They also recorded two singles. One was Sam & Dave's "You Don't Know What I Know" with Otis Redding's "That's How Strong My Love Is." But the original version of "You Don't Know" became popular at about the same time, and the single was "dead on arrival." There was also a single from the above LP, "Why Do Fools Fall in Love?" with "Don't You Ask..." as the b-side.
7. What rare or unreleased songs are 'out there?' +
Here is a list of (perhaps) all the known non-album Pink Floyd tracks. Many of these are available illegally. Some have never been heard by the general public. Some may not even exist.
- Across the Universe (the Beatles' song)
- Waters, on 1986 BBC special for John Lennon with help from Andy Fairweather-Low
- Ain't No Sunshine
- Bill Withers song performed on soundchecks on the About Face tour
- Another Brick in the Wall (2)
- rerecorded by Roger for a Berlin Wall promo CD
- Apples and Oranges
- single
- Arnold Layne
- single
- Astronomy Domine
- live, from "Take it Back" single
- Baby Blue Shuffle in D#
- jam, became Part 1 of "The Narrow Way"
- Get Back to Radio
- KAOS b-side
- Biding My Time
- from Relics
- Big Theme
- "La Carrera Panamericana"
- Bitter Love
- aka "How do You Feel," unreleased 1975 (see P3Q8)
- Bob Dylan Blues
- unreleased Barrett track from 1970
- The Bobbin' Sound
- unreleased track/working title for a piece from the ASoS sessions, February 1968
- Brain Damage
- early studio version, June '72
- Bring the Boys Back Home
- extended version, back of "Tigers..."
- Candy and a Currant Bun
- back of "Arnold Lane"
- Careful With That Axe, Eugene
- back of "Point Me At The Sky"
- Carrera Slow Blues
- "La Carrera Panamericana"
- Come In #51, Your Time Is Up
- Zabriskie
- music from "The Committee"
- a movie they did incidentals for
- Country Theme
- "La Carrera Panamericana"
- Crumbling Land
- from Zabriskie Point soundtrack
- Cymbaline
- "More" movie version
- Dance with the Ferraris
- instrumental from 4 Dec 1989 by Mason+Fenn at Essen Motor Show
- The Death of Sisco
- possibly "Disco" or "Cisco," a Wall outtake
- Deep in the Blues
- performed by Gilmour at 1984 Guitar Greats concert
- Embryo
- Ummagumma outtake *
- Fingal's Cave
- Zabriskie outtake
- Flapdoodle Dealing
- unreleased early live piece
- Flight from Reality
- from late 1975, "very strange"
- Gimme A Break
- Chuck Berry song the Floyd covered
- The Gnome
- rare mix on back of "Flaming" single
- Great Gig in the Sky
- Nurofen advertisement, re-recording with Clare Torry (see P3Q8)
- Great Gig in the Sky
- early live version, w/radio evangelists
- Going to Live in LA
- Waters KAOS single
- Heart Beat, Pig Meat
- Zabriskie
- The Hero's Return part II
- Parts 1 & 2 on back of "Not Now John" obscured version single
- Highway Song
- unreleased track recorded in 1969
- Hollywood
- More outtake (Gilmour) **
- I Can Tell
- unreleased early live song
- I Can Tell
- blues jam from the KAOS tour.
- I Get Stoned
- demo recorded at their first session
- In the Beechwoods
- unreleased track recorded May 1968
- Interstellar Overdrive
- live, Ummagumma outtake
- Interstellar Overdrive
- the earliest recording, on "Tonight Let's All Make Love in London"
- It's a Miracle
- uptempo version with Flea on bass
- It Would Be So Nice
- single
- Jews Harp and Windchimes
- unreleased track recorded in 1969
- John Latham
- unreleased track recorded May 1968
- Julia Dream
- back of "It Would Be So Nice"
- Just Before You Disappear
- unreleased Barrett song
- Keep Smiling People
- May 31 1968, early version of "Careful..." [See Q15]
- King Bee
- blues song, covered by the Rolling Stones, written by Moore, recorded by Slim Harpo
- Lafayette Railroad
- by Little Feat, performed at Gilmour sound checks
- Lanky (Part 2)
- unreleased Barrett instrumental
- Like A Rolling Stone
- Gilmour demo played on Radio One, 28/7/92
- Living Alone
- unreleased Barrett track
- Lucy Leave
- from '66 sessions
- Lucy Lee in Blue Tights
- first group composition, may have become "Lucy Leave"
- Madamoiselle Knobs
- from the "Pompeii" movie
- Merry Christmas Song
- from the John Peel Show, December 1975 ^
- Mexico '78
- "La Carrera Panamericana"
- Millionaire
- unreleased early track, sometimes called "She Was A Millionaire"
- Molly's Song
- Waters KAOS single
- Moonhead
- from BBC TV ++
- Mother
- "Wall" movie version
- Nick's Boogie
- also on "Tonight..."
- Not Now John (obscured)
- expletives-deleted single
- On The Run
- early live jam
- One in a Million
- early live song, sometimes called "Rush in a Million"
- Outside the Wall
- "Wall" movie version
- Overture
- recorded for "Wall" movie
- Overture for Comfortably Numb
- unreleased/alternate track from The Wall
- Paint Box
- back of "Apples and Oranges"
- Pan Am Shuffle
- from "La Carrera Panamericana" film
- Peace Be With You
- from MLoR, a 'good luck' message to Waters
- Peter Gunn
- by Henri Mancini, performed at About Face sound checks
- Piggy Back
- unreleased early live piece
- Pink
- unreleased early live piece
- Point Me At The Sky
- single
- Point Me At The Sky
- extended, from the Top Gear sessions
- Prophet
- unreleased song/alternative title from The Wall sessions
- Oenone
- Zabriskie outtake
- Rain In The Country
- Zabriskie outtake
- Raving and Drooling
- later became "Sheep"
- Reaction in G
- 12 October 1967
- Religious Experience
- EMI outtake w/Barret & Kevin Ayers, Jan 1970
- Rhamadan
- long (18 min) Barrett song from 1968.
- Richard's Rave Up
- eleased track recorded February 1968 (possibly a working title for ASoS song)
- Round and Around
- extended
- Run Like Hell
- Potzdamer Mix, from a Berlin Wall promo CD
- Scream Thy Last Scream
- late Syd song
- Seabirds
- More outtake (Waters) **
- See Emily Play
- single
- Sh-Boom
- a 1954 "Crew Cuts" hit covered by Mason/Fenn
- Sheep
- with 23rd Psalm read by Mason
- Silas Lane
- from very early "basement" sessions, 1966
- Small Theme
- "La Carrera Panamericana"
- Smiles for Miles
- unreleased song recorded for ATD
- Snowing
- unreleased early live track
- Sorrow
- instrumental version
- Synth Theme
- unreleased song or working title from The Wall sessions
- Take it Back
- extended, from French promo CD
- Terminal Frost
- "Do Your Own Lead" version
- Time
- early studio version, June '72
- Theme (Beat Version)
- More outtake (entire band) **
- Vegetable Man
- late Syd song
- The Violent Sequence
- part eventually became "Us and Them" +
- Waiting for the Drummer
- live jam from the KAOS tour, 11/16/87
- What Shall We Do Now?
- from "The Wall" movie
- When The Tigers Broke Free
- from "The Wall" movie, later a single
- "White of the Eye" soundtrack
- scored by Mason/Fenn
- You Gotta Be Crazy
- later became "Dogs"
...and a few other items, mostly just instrumental jams from concerts and edited versions of songs for radio airplay.
* This piece has many live recordings, and a studio version was finally released on Works demo version was accidentally released on Picnic (a Harvest label sampler). Originally intended to be a part of Ummagumma.
** These songs were found in a volume of copyrighted musical works. "Seabirds" had lyrics, while the others were instrumentals. They appeared in the film, but were omitted from the album. Also, the music for "Seabirds" has apparently been published in a music book at some time (though the lyrics were different than in the movie).
+ "Violent" was originally written for the movie Zabriskie Point and was performed during some of their tours of the period as a part of a 20 minute piece including bits of "Heart Beat, Pig Meat." [From Gerhard]:
- Part 1 is a tremendous drum part, sometimes labeled as "Corrosion"
- Part 2 is a piano-based part, which could be "Heart Beat, Pig Meat"
- Part 3 is again a drum-based thing, and also appears on some RoIOs as "Corrosion"
- Part 4 is "The Violent Sequence," a piano-based part that sounds really familiar (and that's because it's the base for "Us & Them"). The sequence the song was written for involved riots or somesuch being shown in slow motion.
++ [from Adam Winstanley]: Moonhead was included as part of a documentary on BBC TV on the night of the first moon landing. It was in an "arts" series called Omnibus, this particular programme being about people's differing perceptions of the moon through time (a goddess, lunatics, romantic moonlight, were-wolves baying at it ... etc. etc.) The programme was subtitled "What if it's just green cheese."
^ Likely recorded in 1970. Exactly who is singing is not known; some combination of Nick Mason/Alan Styles/John Peel.
8. Hey! Has anyone else seen these orchestral albums? +
There are currently two albums of orchestral cover versions of Pink Floyd songs, both played by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. The band itself was not involved with either album.
While such things are, of course, subjective, this album has generally gotten better reviews than Orchestral Maneuvers. It's also, to my knowledge, only currently available in Europe. Also in the area of orchestral versions of Floyd songs, The London Symphony Orchestra recorded an arrangement of "Another Brick in the Wall" for the Classic Rock - Rock Classics album.
- Orchestral Maneuvers (previously titled Objects of Fantasy)
- Arranged, conducted, and produced by David Palmer, who did similar albums of Jethro Tull and Genesis. The album includes "Run Like Hell," "Another Brick in the Wall, pt.1," "The Happiest Days of Our Lives," "Another Brick in the Wall, pt.2," "Goodbye Blue Sky," "Money," "Hey You," "Wish You Were Here," "On The Turning Away," "Shine On You Crazy Diamond, pts.1-5," and "When The Tigers Broke Free/Eclipse."
Generally, it's not bad, but sometimes it borders on "elevator music." Interesting listening, at the least. A few of the tracks contain vocals. Also on the album are Steve Hackett (from Genesis), and Clare Torry.- Hits of Pink Floyd
- Arranged and conducted by Hermann Weindorf. It includes "Shine On You Crazy Diamond," "Money," "Us and Them," "Hey You," "Another Brick in the Wall," "Wish You Were Here," "Time," "The Great Gig in the Sky," and "In the Flesh."
9. What are some good books relating to Pink Floyd? +
There have been several books published regarding Floyd. It is also rumored that Nick Mason is working with Storm Thorgerson (of Hipgnosis fame) on their own book. Here is a listing of some of them, with a few comments:
Some others that are now out of print:
- "Pink Floyd: A Visual Documentary by Miles" published by Omnibus Press ISBN 0-7119-1444-3
- An excellent reference. A day-by-day account of what the Floyd did, with commentary. Lots of pictures. A 21st Anniversary addition was released in 1988; another update should be out soon.
- "Saucerful Of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Odyssey" by Nicholas Schaffner, published by Harmony Books ISBN 0-3853-0684-9
- A superb book, detailing Floyd from the very very early days to the MLOR tour/Berlin Wall show. Often called "The Book" by Echoes, and generally regarded as a must-have. The UK edition has only 18 pictures, compared to 34 in the us edition. There is also a paperback edition.
- "Pink Floyd Back-Stage - Another Lapse from the Inside by Bob Hassall". Published independently, 1991; limited edition of 1000.
- Fascinating document of one fan's odyssey following the AMLoR tour around Europe in 1989, and including Knebworth 1990, often as a member of the event crew. Many great color photos and interesting reproductions of tour documents. Enquiries concerning present availability should be directed to:
Backstage Workshop PO Box 1017 1440 BA Purmerend Netherlands- "Pink Floyd: Bricks In The Wall" by Karl Dallas published by Shaposky Publishers
- Notable for it's interviews with Roger Waters. Contains a fair number of errors, though.
- "Collectors Guide to Pink Floyd videos" by Vernon Fitch published by the Pink Floyd Archives
- A list of Pink Floyd video recordings; such as concerts, movies, promo films, interviews, etc.
- "Pink Floyd: Anthology" published by Hal Leonard Publishing Corp. ISBN 0-88188-445-6
- "Pink Floyd Lyric Book" published by Chappel Music Ltd ISBN 0-71371-280-5
- Contains two interviews with Roger Waters, from 1975 & 1982
- "Pink Floyd" by William Ruhlmann Published by Smithmark Publishers, Inc. ISBN 0-8317-6912-2
- Largely a picture book, this is notable for its discography, its pictures of various album and single covers and other assorted tour paraphanelia, and for its balanced assessment of the Waters/Floyd split. Goes through 1992; notes Amused to Death in its discography but does not discuss it in the text.
- "Syd Barrett Lyric Book" by Luca Ferrari
- Biography (in Italian), with lyrics to Syd's PF and solo songs in both English and Italian, and some rare photos. Also includes the Barrett poem "A Rooftop in a Thunderstorm Row Missing the Point," and a 3" CD single.
- "Le Livre du Pink Floyd" by Alain Dister, Jacques Leblanc, and Udo Woehrle published by Albin Michel
- In French. Lots of pictures, many of them fairly rare.
- "Crazy Diamond - Syd Barrett & the Dawn of Pink Floyd" by Mike Watkinson & Pete Anderson published by Omnibus Press ISBN 0-7119-2397-3
- "Rock Sets - The Astonishing Art Of Concert Design" Thames And Hudson, 30 Bloomsbury Street, London WC1B 3QP ISBN 0-500-27697-8
- A picture book of concerts that Fisher Park has designed. Includes lots of information and photos from the Berlin concert, plus some coverage of the Animals, Wall, P&C and KAOS tours. 145 color photos and 3 8-page foldouts.
- "In Session Tonight" by Ken Garner, published by BBC Books ISBN 0-563-36452-1
- Not a Pink Floyd book as such, but a good reference for all the BBC shows. Includes a limited edition CD of BBC session material, including one track by Syd Barrett.
- "Learning to Fly " by Chris Welch published by Castle Communications Plc. ISBN 1-898141-3
- 160 pages, with lots of pictures, most in b/w. It's very up-to-date, including information from the beginning of the TDB tour. Not the best in terms of accuracy.
- "A Journey Through Time and Space with Pink Floyd"
- Another great book (according to echosians), includes set lists for pretty much every concert the Floyd have ever done.
- "The Work Of Hipgnosis - Walk Away Rene" published by Paper Tiger (UK) ISBN 0-905895088
- Believed to be out of print, this book details the work of the graphics team who did many of Pink Floyd's covers.
- "Pink Floyd 'Another Brick' - An Illustrated Discography" by Miles, published by Omnibus Press (1981) ISBN 0-7119-0521-5
- Brief biography, extensive illustrated discography (official and otherwise). Out of print; superseded by "A Visual Documentary".
- "The Pink Floyd" by Rick Sanders, published by Futura ISBN 0-8600-7264-9
- The first PF biography, covering the earliest days up to the WYWH era. Also contained a brief RoIO discography. Long out of print.
- "Pink Floyd - Anthology" Warner Bros. Publication INC, VF0790.
- Contains Highlights from DSotM, ObC, Meddle, Relics, AHM, Ummagumma, More, ASoS, and TPatGoD. 128 pages, including a 2-page article about the early years of PF. No pictures. One big plus: Contains lyrics for many early PF songs.
- "Collectors Guide to Pink Floyd live recordings" by Vernon Fitch
- published by the Pink Floyd Archives Used as a reference work for numerous Pink Floyd publications (such as the "Visual Documentary" and "A Journey Through Time and Space" books).
Many music books are available, mostly exclusively through Music Sales Corporation. Here's info on most of them:
- "Amused to Death" songbook ISBN 0-7119-3220-4
- Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason Pink Floyd Music Publishers Limited, Order no. AM 68834, UK ISBN: 0-7119-1340-4
- 72 pages, including b&w & color photograps, excerpts from some AMLoR videos. Stylish design by Storm Thurgerson, Nexus.
- "The Pros & Cons of Hitch Hiking" songbook by Roger Waters ISBN 0-7119-1959-3
- "Original David Gilmour" ISBN 0-8256-1062-1 Money, Echoes, Any Colour You Like, Shine On (p2), Shine On (p4), WYWH, Dogs, There's No Way Out of Here, Another Brick (p2), Mother, Young Lust, Comfortably Numb, Hey You, Murder, All Lovers are Deranged, You Know I'm Right, Lets Get Metaphysical.
- "The Wall" songbook ISBN 0-8256-1267-5 (US)
- Features about 20 pages of Scarfe illustrations and photos of the Floyd playing.
- Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd Music Publishers Limited, Order no. AM 64189, (UK) ISBN: 0-7119-1029-4, (USA) ISBN: 0-8256-1079-6
- 88 pages, 40 sheet music pages, includes many b/w & color photograps from the DSotM tour, book designed by Hipgnosis. Contains two interviews: "A Rambling Conversation with Roger Waters concerning all this and that" by Nick Sedgewick, and "An Interview with David Gilmour" by Gary Cooper.
- "Animals" songbook
- 90pp, 45 of which are sheet music. Remainder is filled with newspaper clippings, photographs, pictures, and two pages of the "Equipment and Technical" portion of Floyd's touring contract.
- "Dark Side of the Moon" songbook ISBN 0-8256-2595-5 (US)
- Includes a bunch of (rather small) pictures of the Floyd as well as an interview with road manager Peter Watts.
Exclusive distributors:
Music Sales Corporation Music Sales Limited 225 Park Avenue South 8/9 Frith Street NY, NY 10003 USA London W1V 5TZ England Music Sales PTY. Limited Pink Floyd Music Publishers LTD 120 Rothschild Street, Rosebery 27 Noel Street Sydney, NSW 2018 Australia London W1V 3RD
10. Are there any Pink Floyd fanzines? +
The main Pink Floyd fanzine currently running is "Brain Damage." For details, send a self-addressed, stamped envelope to:
In UK/Australia/NZ/ Japan/Hong Kong/ South Africa: | In Europe/Eire: | In the Americas: --------------------+------------------------+------------------------- Glenn Povey | Michael Perricone | Brain Damage Magazine PO Box 385 | Witikonerstasse 460 | P.O. Box 109 Uxbridge | CH 8053 | Westmont, IL 60559 Middlesex, UB9 5DZ | Zurich | England | Switzerland | TEL: 0895-833413 | |[From Servaas te Brake:]
There's also a Dutch general-interest Pink Floyd fanzine, called "Echoes" (not to be confused with the echoes mailing list). Echoes is published 3 times a year in January, May and September. A single issue costs 6,50 guilders. A subscription for a year costs 17,50 guilders; prices are postage inclusive and apply only for the Netherlands.For subscriptions remit the subscription costs to account Rabobank 15.11.52.543, M. Lourens in Tiel, concerning Echoes.
The subscription costs for foreign countries is 20 guilders or US$ 12,00 for Europe and US$ 14,00 for the rest of the world. Money can be sent by registered letter or by International Money Order. Inside Europe you can also send a Eurocheque addressed to M. Lourens, concerning Echoes.
The correspondence adress is:
Echoes P.O. Box 156 4000 AD Tiel The NetherlandsNOTE: Make sure they get your name and address. Not all the banks send your name and address along with the money; if you're not sure about this just send them a postcard with your name, address and account number on it to the above address.
There is a fanzine published by REG, the International Roger Waters Fan Club. Subscription Info:
Membership Rates: The cost of REG Fanclub membership is currently $20.00 for members in the U.S. and because of increased postage costs is $27.00 for international members. Membership includes club initiation fees, yearly club dues, yearly subscription to the REG newsletter/magazine, and club card fee. The (20-40 page) REG Newsletter/Magazine will be published 3-4 issues per year. Membership applicants may pay by; U.S. bank check; International check (cheque) made out in U.S. dollars, or U.S. Postal Money Order, all made payable to:Michael Simone 112 Bennett Rd. Aptos CA 95003 U.S.A.Or you may pay by cash (U.S. currency if at all possible is preferred, but you may pay the equivalent membership amount in the currency of your country with an additional $10.00 for bank charges)....and for Syd Barrett fans, you can learn more about the "Chapter 24" Sydzine by sending a SASE to:
Chapter 24 c/o John Kelly 101 Amersham Road Terriers, High Wycombe Bucks HP13 5AD EnglandThere are also two out-of-production fanzines that can still be obtained. The chief early Syd Barrett fanzine was "Terrapin," and a boxed set of all the "Terrapin" issues has recently been made available.
The chief Pink Floyd fanzine was for long "The Amazing Pudding," until it ceased production in early 1994. Back issues (the last was #60) are still available; send a self-addressed, stamped envelope to:
Andy Mabbett 61 Meynell House Browns Green Birmingham B20 1BE UK
11. What are the Pink Floyd archives? +
The Pink Floyd Archives was created in the mid-seventies by collector Vernon Fitch to provide a centralized place for Pink Floyd information and collectibles. The Archives includes collections of numerous Pink Floyd items, but is best known for its Collectors Guides to Pink Floyd recordings and videos in which Vernon has documented the band's history through detailed listings of actual concert recordings. The Archives has worked with numerous publishers of Pink Floyd books and magazines, has helped the band members out with various requests and has been involved in assisting MTV with their Pink Floyd specials.
You can contact the Archives by mail at
Vernon Fitch Pink Floyd Archives P.O. Box 13844 St. Petersburg, FL U.S.A. 33733...or e-mail to "Vernon_Fitch@notes.cch.com" See also Q9.
12. What kind of artwork is available for Floyd records/CDs?
A lot, as any serious Floyd collector can probably tell you. Following are several lists dealing with variations in the album artwork, colored vinyl, CD artwork, etc.
12.1 What variations are there in the album art?
Here is a list of known variations (all vinyl, unless otherwise noted):
- Pink Floyd:
- Some with paisley stripes, others with rainbow stripes.
- Piper, ASoS:
- New reissues include "Fame" written across one corner. [Fame being a division of Harvest]
- Ummagumma:
- The "album" leaning on the wall in some pressings is the soundto "Gigi" (ommitted in US pressings due to copyright ownership problems).
- OBC:
- Flat (non-glossy) cover.
- Meddle:
- Textured (not smooth) cover, with no writing (import).
- Relics:
- Originally featured art by Nick Mason, a line-drawing of some weird (almost Dr. Seuss-like) cityscape. Some had "Pink Floyd" in pink letters. Later replaced with some weird "masks," which were in reality some bizarre form of bottle-openers. The Australian CD featured old coins on the cover.
- DSotM:
- Originally came with two posters--one of Egyptian pyramids viewed through a green filter, and one with pictures of the band in concert. Also came with two stickers showing cartoon pyramids, moons, and other such images in various views with the words "Pink Floyd" (these can be seen on the "invisible man's" suitcase on the back of WYWH.)
- DSotM:
- Some imports have a different view of the pyramids, in blue.
- A Nice Pair:
- Early British pressings had a picture of the outside of "W. Phang"'s dentistry office, but he complained ("Dentists aren't allowed to advertise,") so it was changed to show a picture of a monk gargling. U.S. Versions have the "Phang" picture. Both versions differ slightly in the arrangement and selection of inner-cover pictures.
- WYWH:
- Originally came with a postcard of the "diver" in the lake. I have seen two different views of the diver, one with a straight cut around the postcard, and one with a zigzag cut. Originally released in dark purple unmarked shrink wrap with only a round seal with the robot handshake.
- WYWH:
- Also a rare gatefold cover, with the two outside being the fire and sand, and the two inside covers water & air.
- MLOR:
- Slightly different album cover--different angle to the photograph, the people were in different places. Also included a poster. A UK pressing.
- ATD:
- Special "Audiophile" 2-lp vinyl version, with larger booklet and more photos (most from the videos).
Note that this list does not include Japanese pressing differences, as there are many weird variations of things found from Japan, many of which include lyric sheets that are often completely wrong!
In addition to all these variants, there are the Tower pressings of Piper, ASoS, and More, plus all the albums that later had Universal Product Codes added to them.
12.2 What colored vinyl is available?
- Dark Side of the Moon: Blue, Clear, White, Pink, picture disc
- The Wall: Orange
- Atom Heart Mother: Grey (smoke coloured), Plum
- Wish You Were Here: Blue, clear, picture disc
- A Momentary Lapse Of Reason: White
- Animals: Pink
- One Slip, On the Turning Away, Money 12": Pink
- The Division Bell: Transparent Blue, Red [? I've heard of one of these]
- '94 Barrett EP: Pink
And in Japan the first 6 albums (except for Ummagumma) were all pressed in red vinyl (each as a limited edition of 500 copies)
12.3 Vinyl Label Art
As long as we're talking about album artwork, here's a list of some of the original "label" artwork from the LPs:
- DSotM:
- black label with white prism
- WYWH:
- black & blue line drawing of robot hands
- Animals:
- Fish-eye lens pictures of area around power station
- Wall:
- the wall, in various stages of construction, with "appropriate" Gerald Scarfe characters
- TFC:
- Poppy fields & a dead soldier (w/knife in his back)
- AMLoR:
- boat on water, beds
- KAOS:
- The "Radio KAOS" & song listing in green
- TDB:
- Stylized two heads (pg 6 of CD booklet) / Guys holding 3 really big red+white+blue striped banners (back cover of CD booklet)
12.4 List of CD Art
Here is a quick list of what the Harvest CD's have (most from from Dave Cowl)
- WYWH has : The Black cover with the metallic hands and four background `scenes' (was on the top left corner of some vinyls here).
- Men shaking hands w fire + red satin w woman behind
- lake w legs coming out vertically (in colour!) + invisible man w clear vinyl of the album + man swimming in sand + `leaking holes' w water pouring out amongst the lyrics.- Animals has the monochrome pictures from the gatefold album. My CBS version has bigger lyrics!
- The Wall has all the Scarfe drawings from the album and the credits all written in `graffiti' writing.
- The Final Cut has the three album pictures + lyrics printed white on black (as per the album gatefold).
- Great Dance Songs (rare) has the gatefold pictures.
- Momentary Lapse has all the album pictures (original CBS here didn't - later copies did).
- Delicate Sound has 36 page colour book (CBS here had 28 page) More pictures than the CBS, but the CBS had a few that the EMI didn't.
- Pro's and Cons has lyrics against orange backdrop with woman like shadow shapes
- KAOS had a little satellite on the front and bigger lyrics than the CBS version.
- About Face has all the lyrics.
- KAOS has a real neat CD label. Morse code and stuff.
- Delicate Sound is dark with orange writing.
- Amused has all the lyrics white on black.
- Division Bell has all the lyrics, with a picture associated with each song. Many small differences between EMI and Columbia (see P4Q29).
Also of note, where the writing on the album covers is in some special script, the title on the actual CD is in the same script. (WYWH, Animals, The Wall, Dance Songs, The Final Cut, Pro's and Cons)
12.5 Are there posters available of the album artwork?
There are many more Pink Floyd posters than is feasible to list here, including many of the album covers, in many different sizes. Here's the address of the company that distributes most of them:
Anabas Bridge Close Romford, Essex RM7 0AU England
13. What are some very rare releases or packages? +
Aside from the list of rare music above, some other Pink Floyd rarities that have been discovered are:
- Arnold Layne/Candy & A Currant Bun
- rare picture sleeve
- Apples & Oranges/Paintbox
- DJ picture sleeve
- It Would Be So Nice
- 1983 12" 1 sided
- When The Tigers Broke Free / Bring The Boys Back Home
- 12"
- Money
- 1 sided 12" pink vinyl
- Pink Floyd
- US version of Piper, but with "Arnold" and "Emily" instead of "Flaming" and "Astronomy Domine"
- Dark Side of the Moon
- DJ Sampler 12"
- Pompeii
- DJ Sampler 12"
- Off The Wall
- DJ Sampler 12"
- Tour '75
- 1975 DJ Promo--studio tracks +
- David Gilmour
- 1978 DJ Promo EP @
- First XI
- box set of Piper->Final Cut, with original sleeves except DSotM & Animals (picture discs)
- Pink Floyd--The Box
- European box set of WYWH through MLoR CDs (including ACoGDS)
- Q4SHVL 781 Atom Heart Mother
- quad mix*
- Q4SHVL 804 Dark Side of the Moon
- quad mix
- Q4SHVL 814 Wish You Were Here
- quad mix
- The Division Box
- limited edition TDB promo %
- Flaming/The Gnome
- Tower 368, unique "Gnome"
- Not Now John (obscured)
- 12" 1 sided DJ
- Tour '75
- compilation promo, not live
- Run Like Hell (6:21/3:25)
- single
- On the Turning Away/Run Like Hell
- pink vinyl single
- Banded & edited Animals
- DJ version
- Money/Another Brick in the Wall (II)
- 12" pink vinyl
- Remember a Day/Let There Be More Light
- single
- One of These Days
- single
- '94 Barrett EP
- pink vinyl #
- Love on the Air
- picture disc
- The Midnight Sun (part 1 & 2)
- [I've seen mention of it in one book, and talked with one dealer who claims to have seen it. It probably doesn't exist. djs]
+ Capitol's attempt to get back catalog moving. Contained: "The Gold It's in the....," "Wots...Uh The Deal," "Free Four," "Fat Old Sun," "One of These Days," "Astronomy Domine," and "Careful With That Axe, Eugene."
@ Four-track promo sampler for the David Gilmour LP, with "Deafinitely," "Mihalis," "Short And Sweet" and "So Far Away."
% Contains:
- A copy of The Division Bell CD
- A copy of the "High Hopes" CD single
- A promotional "Division Bell", which was a little silver-plated bell, about six inches long, with handle.
- A custom denim shirt/jacket (black)
# Contains album versions of "Terrapin," "Octopus," "Baby Lemonade," and "Effervescing Elephant"
* The Floyd also apparently spent some time in the studio recording a quad mix of Meddle. However, this was never released...
14. What are all these remasters and gold discs? +
The original releases of some Pink Floyd albums used inferior masters; and, in the case of some CD releases, featured poor analog-to-digital conversions. Thus there have been a fair number of "special" releases that attempt to correct these deficiencies.
List of "Original Master" Type Releass:
Vinyl
MFSL:
- Meddle (Limited Edition)
- Dark Side of the Moon
- Atom Heart Mother (Anadisq 200 Limited Edition)
MFSL UHQR (Ultra High Quality Record)
- Dark Side of the Moon
Columbia:
- Wish You Were Here
- The Wall
- Collection of Great Dance Songs
CD
MFSL:
- Atom Heart Mother
- Meddle
- Dark Side of the Moon
- The Wall (out of print)
- (with the scheduled Ummagumma experiencing technical difficulties...)
Sony:
- Shine On (ASoS, Meddle, DSotM, WYWH, Animals, The Wall, and AMLoR)
- Amused to Death SBM
- Wish You Were Here SBM
Capitol:
- Dark Side of the Moon XX (Remastered 20th Aniversary Edition)
14.1 The Shine On/EMI remasters *
Remastered versions of ASoS, Meddle, DSotM, WYWH, Animals, and The Wall have been available since 1992 as part of the Sony/EMI Shine On box set. More recently, these remastered albums have been made available seperately; and additionally, most other Floyd albums have been or are scheduled to be remastered in the same manner (see Q4). The only exceptions are the compilation albums and MLoR, DSoT, and TDB.
These remasters are based on the original master tapes, and were done by Doug Sax (supervised by James Guthrie) at the Mastering Lab, in Los Angeles. They generally represent a higher level of quality than the previous Harvest discs (which in turn were generally superior to the Capitol discs sold in the US). In addition to the hightened sound quality, the remastered editions feature (in almost all cases) expanded booklets with new artwork and lyrics (even on the early albums!); the discs themselves are all picture discs.
NOTE: There has been some disagreement over whether the new EMI discs that have
Shine On
counterparts are or are not identical. The general consensus is that they are; and if they are not, then they were at least done by the same people, at the same location, with the same equipment, at the same time, and for the same company.
14.2 The MFSL Gold Discs +
These "Ultradiscs," produced by Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs, have three main selling points:
In addition, recent MFSL Ultradisc II's use a special conversion process called the "GAIN" System that results in sound even better than previous Ultradiscs. The Atom Heart Mother MFSL CD uses this process.
- The gold surface prevents oxidation from occurring. Of course, cases of non-defective aluminum CDs oxidizing are extremely rare (I haven't heard of any, in fact).
- The gold surface decreases the need for error correction; the sound you hear is more precisely the sound you were meant to hear.
- Most importantly, MFSL takes a great deal of care to use the best possible masters for their discs, and to master and press them to be as close to perfect as possible. For example, the original Capitol DSotM was taken from an old quadraphonic LP master, not the original master. To compound the problem, instead of placing right front and right rear on the same channel (and the same for left), they put the two front channels on one side and the two rear on the other. As another example, The Wall contained a very audible "pop" right before "Comfortably Numb, which the MFSL disc does not suffer from.
There's a lot more info on Mobile Fidelity at their WWW page: http://nearnet.gnn.com/gnn/bus/mfsl/index.html They also have an e-mail address: mofi@mofi.com
14.3 Sony's SBM Process
Sony's Super Bit Map (SBM) Process [from Dave Cowl:]
Basically, the procedure is as follows.One samples the analogue at 20 bits. (Or one takes a 20 bit master.) Apparently, new digital recorders are being made which will record 20 bit samples - previously a hard disc recording system was required (and seems to be the way they still do it mostly).
Then one analyses the round off bits, to accurately ascertain the quantisation noise.
The quantisation noise spectrum is calculated, and then shaped so that the noise is shifted to be mainly in the higher frequencies, where it is less audible. The total noise level is the same - just the frequency band where the noise occurs differs. This modified quantisation noise is then used to choose the last bit (or 2 bits?) of the 16. So, instead of being white noise added to 14 bits resolution, or (apparently worse) pure quantisation noise, it is an accurately sampled waveform with the noise largely shifted away from the lower frequencies.
The result is supposed to be difficult to distinguish from the 20 bit master.
15. What were the working titles for some songs/albums? +
Several Pink Floyd works had early titles that never made it to album. Some can be found on RoIOs, some are from session logs, etc. Here is a list of those we know about:
- Original title
- Today's title?
- Let's Roll Another One
- Candy and a Currant Bun
- Games for May
- See Emily Play
- Percy the Ratcatcher
- Lucifer Sam
- Doreen's Dream
- Julia Dream
- The Amazing Pudding
- Atom Heart Mother Suite
- We Won the Double, Through The Knotholes In Granny's Wooden Leg, Nothing To The Sun And Back, Return of The Son of Nothing
- Echoes
- The Massed Gadgets of Hercules
- A Saucerful of Secrets
- Eclipsed
- The Dark Side of the Moon
- Ecclesiastics
- The Great Gig in the Sky
- Baby Blue Shuffle in D#
- Narrow Way Part 1
- The Dark Side of the Moon
- Brain Damage
- Keep Smiling People, Murderistic Woman
- Careful With That Axe, Eugene
- Of Promises Broken, Signs of Life, Delusions of Maturity
- A Momentary Lapse of Reason
- Home
- Radio KAOS
- Fallen Angel
- What God Wants
- The Violent Sequence
- (became the basis for "Us and Them")
- Raving and Drooling
- (became "Sheep")
- You Gotta Be Crazy
- (became "Dogs")
- The Big Bong Theory
- Shine On
- Awaken to the Sense of Reality
- The Division Bell
- The Whale Song
- Marooned
16. A Collection of Great Concert Setlists +
This is by no means a comprehensive list of all the gigs Pink Floyd have ever played. Rather, it is a collection of representative performances, important or oft-mentioned shows, and a list of any additional musicians that played. Compiled with great help from the "ASoS" and "Journey Through Time and Space" books
London Free School (Powis Gardens) -- October, 1966:
Pink Theme; Let's Roll Another One; Gimme a Break; Piggy Back; Stoned Alone; I Can Tell; The Gnome; Interstellar Overdrive; Lucy Leave; Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk; Flapdoodle Dealing; Snowing; Matilda Mother; Pow R. Toc H.; Astronomy DomineTop Gear Show (BBC) -- September, 1967:
Flaming; Apples and Oranges; Scarecrow; The Gnome; Matilda MotherTop Gear Show (BBC) -- December, 1967:
Vegetable Man; Scream Thy Last Scream; Pow R. Toc H.; Jugband BluesTop Gear Show (BBC) -- June, 1968:
Julia Dream; Murderistic Woman; Let There Be More Light; Massed Gadgets of HerculesFantasio, Amsterdam, Holland -- May 31, 1968:
Let There Be More Light; Interstellar Overdrive; Keep Smiling People; Flaming; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; A Saucerful of Secrets
NOTE: In many places, this concert is listed as having taken place on Sept 1 of 1968 (or '69). However, this seems unlikely, based on the inclusion of "Keep Smiling People," which was a very mellow early version of "Careful with that Axe, Eugene." In the developmental cycle of the song, KSP appears to be somewhere between the version recorded for "The Committee" in May '68 and "Murtic Woman," first performed sometime before September '68. Thus the May 31 date makes sense. Thanks to Gerhard and Piet de Bondt for clearing this up.Fairfield Hall, Croyden, England -- January 1970:
Astronomy Domine; The Violent Sequence; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; Careful With That Axe, Eugene; Embryo; Main Theme (From More); Biding My Time; A Saucerful of SecretsFillmore West, San Francisco -- March 1970:
Atom Heart Mother; Cymbaline; Green is the Colour; Careful With That Axe, Eugene; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; Embryo; A Saucerful of Secrets; Interstellar OverdriveCity Hall, Sheffield, England -- December 1970:
Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast; Embryo; Fat Old Sun; Careful With That Axe, Eugene; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; A Saucerful of Secrets; Atom Heart MotherHunter College, New York -- May 1971:
Embryo; Fat Old Sun; Atom Heart Mother; One of These Days; Careful With That Axe, Eugene; Cymbaline; Echoes; A Saucerful of SecretsRainbow Theater, London -- February 1972:
The Dark Side of the Moon; One of These Days; Careful With That Axe, Eugene; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; EchoesRadio City Music Hall, New York -- March 1973:
Obscured By Clouds; When You're In; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; Careful with that Axe, Eugene; Echoes; The Dark Side of the Moon Players:Dick Parry saxophone The Blackberries female vocal duoAmerican Tour -- Spring 1975:
Raving and Drooling; You've Got to be Crazy; Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts 1-5); Have a Cigar; Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts 6-9); The Dark Side of the Moon; Echoes"In The Flesh" (Animals) World Tour -- 1977:
Sheep; Pigs on the Wing (Part 1); Dogs; Pigs on the Wing (Part 2); Pigs (Three Different Ones); Wish You Were Here; Money; Us and Them Players:Snowy White guitar Dick Parry saxophone & keyboardsThe Wall Tour -- 1980-81
In the Flesh; The Thin Ice; Another Brick in the Wall (Part 1); The Best Years of Our Lives; Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2); Mother; Goodbye Blue Sky; What Shall We Do Now?; Young Lust; One of My Turns; Don't Leave Me Now; Another Brick in the Wall (Part 3); Goodbye Cruel World; Hey You; Is There Anybody Out There; Nobody Home; Vera; Bring The Boys Back Home; Comfortably Numb; The Show Must Go On; In the Flesh; Run Like Hell; Waiting for the Worms; Stop; The Trial; Outside the Wall
Players:
First Series--New York, Los Angeles, and London:Andy Bown bass Snowy White guitar Willie Wilson drums Peter Wood keyboards Jon Joyce vocals Stan Farber vocals Jim Haas vocals Joe Chemay vocalsSecond Series--Dortmund and London:Andy Bown bass Andy Roberts guitar Willie Wilson drums Peter Wood keyboards Jon Joyce vocals Stan Farber vocals Jim Haas vocals Joe Chemay vocalsPlus the announcers in each city -- among them Cynthia Fox in L.A. and Gary Udman/Yudman (?) in New York
David Gilmour About Face American Tour -- Summer 1984:
Until We Sleep; All Lovers are Deranged; Love on the Air; Mihalis; Cruise; Short and Sweet; Money; Out of the Blue; Let's Get Metaphysical; You Know I'm Right; Run Like Hell; Blue Light; Murder; Comfortably Numb Players:Mick Ralphs guitar Mickey Feat bass guitar Chris Slade drums Raff Ravenscroft saxophone Jody Linscottt percussion Gregg Dechart keyboardsRoger Waters P&C European and American Tours -- Summer 1984:
Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; Money; If; Welcome to the Machine; Have A Cigar; Wish You Were Here; Pigs on the Wing; In The Flesh; Nobody Home; Hey You; The Gunners Dream; The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking; Brain Damage; Eclipse
Players:Roger Waters bass Andy Newmark drums Eric Clapton lead guitar Tim Renwick rhythm guitar Chris Stainton piano Micheal Kamen keyboards Mel Collins saxophone Katie Kassoon backing vocals Doreen Chanter backing vocalsRoger Waters P&C American Tour -- Spring 1985:
Welcome the the Machine; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; Money; If; Wish You Were Here; Pigs on the Wing; Get Your Filthy Hands off My Desert; Southampton Dock; The Gunners Dream; In The Flesh; Nobody Home; Have A Cigar; Another Brick in the Wall (Part 1); The Happiest Days of our Lives; Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2); The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking; Brain Damage; Eclipse
Players:Roger Waters bass Katie Kissoon vocals Doreen Chanter vocals Andy Fairweather-Low guitars Andy Newmark drums Jay Stapley lead guitar Michael Kamen keyboards Mel Collins saxophoneRoger Waters, KAOS Tour -- Fall 1987:
Radio Waves; Welcome to the Machine; Who Needs Information?; Money; In The Flesh; Have a Cigar; Pigs (Three Different Ones); Wish You Were Here; Mother; Molly's Song; Me or Him; The Powers That Be; Going to Live in L.A.; Sunset Strip; Fish Report With A Beat; Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking; Arnold Layne (video); If; Every Stranger's Eyes; Not Now John; Another Brick in the Wall Part I; The Happiest Days of Our Lives; Another Brick in the Wall Part II; Nobody Home; Home; Four Minutes; The Tide is Turning (After Live Aid); Breathe; Brain Damage; Eclipse
Players:Graham Broad drums Paul Carrack keyboards & vocals Doreen Chanter vocals Mel Collins saxophones Andy Fairweather-Low guitars Katie Kissoon vocals Jay Stapley guitars Jim Ladd DJWith guest appearances by Clare Torrey on "The Great Gig in the Sky" at Wembley Arena and Jim Haas, Jon Joyce and Joe Chemay doing a guest appearance on 20 Sept 1987 on "In the Flesh" and "Outside the Wall."
AMLoR American Tour -- Autumn 1987 (Sept 5 through 25):
Echoes; Signs of Life; Learning to Fly; A New Machine (Part 1); Terminal Frost; A New Machine (Part 2); Sorrow; The Dogs of War; Yet Another Movie; On The Turning Away; One of These Days; Time; On The Run; Money; Another Brick In The Wall (Part 2); Comfortably Numb; One Slip; Run Like Hell; Shine On You Crazy Diamond
The "Echoes" shows from the MLOR tour are as follows:
* "Shine On" included with encore- 09 Sep Lansdowne Park Stadium, Ottawa, Ontario
- 12 Sep The Forum, Montreal, Quebec
- 13 Sep The Forum, Montreal, Quebec*
- 14 Sep The Forum, Montreal, Quebec*
- 16 Sep Municipal Stadium, Cleveland, OH*
- 17 Sep Municipal Stadium, Cleveland, OH
- 19 Sep JFK Stadium, Philadelphia, PA**
- 21 Sep CNE Stadium, Toronto, Ontario
- 22 Sep CNE Stadium, Toronto, Ontario
- 23 Sep CNE Stadium, Toronto, Ontario
- 25 Sep Rosemont Horizon, Chicago, IL
** "Shine On" included with encore, "One Slip" not in encoreAMLoR American Tour -- Later in Tour, 1987:
Shine On You Crazy Diamond; Signs of Life; Learning To Fly; Yet Another Movie; A New Machine Part I; Terminal Frost; A New Machine Part II; Sorrow; Dogs of War; On The Turning Away; One Of These Days; Time; On The Run; Wish You Were Here; Welcome To The Machine; Us And Them; Money; Another Brick In The Wall Part II; Comfortably Numb; One Slip; Run Like Hell (added "Great Gig in the Sky" before WYWH in July 1988) Players:Jon Carin keyboards, vocals Scott Page saxophone, guitar Tim Renwick guitars, vocals Guy Pratt bass, vocals Gary Wallis percussion Margaret Taylor vocals Durga McBroom vocals Rachel Fury vocals Lorelei McBroom vocals (later replacing her sister, Durga)Roger Waters "Wall in Berlin" -- 21 July 1990:
In the Flesh?; The Thin Ice; Another Brick in the Wall Part I; The Happiest Days of Our Lives; Another Brick in the Wall Part II; Mother; Goodbye Blue Sky; Empty Spaces/What Shall We Do Now; Young Lust; One of My Turns; Don't Leave Me Now; Another Brick in the Wall Part III; Goodbye Cruel World; Hey You; Is There Anybody Out There?; Nobody Home; Vera; Bring the Boys Back Home; Comfortably Numb; In the Flesh; Run Like Well; Waiting for the Worms; Stop; The Trial; The Tide is Turning
Players: [lots of guests who aren't listed here, plus:The Bleeding Heart Band: Graham Broad drums Rick Difonso guitar Andy Fairweather Low guitar & bass Nick Glennie-Smith keyboards Snowy White guitar Peter Wood keyboards Joe Chemay backing vocals Jim Farber backing vocals Jim Haas backing vocals Jon Joyce backing vocalsKnebworth -- June 30 1990:
Shine On You Crazy Diamond; Sorrow; Wish You Were Here; The Great Gig In The Sky (with Clare Torrey); Money; Comfortably Numb; Run Like HellRoger Waters -- Guitar Legends show in Seville, Spain, November 17, 1991
In the Flesh; ABitW2; What God Wants (pt.1); Brain Damage; Eclipse; Comfortably Numb (with Bruce Hornsby)Roger Waters -- Walden Woods Benefit, Los Angeles, April 1, 1992
In The Flesh; The Happiest Days of Our Lives; ABitW2; Mother; Comfortably NumbTDB 1994 World Tour -- Set 1
Astronomy Domine; Learning to Fly; What Do You Want From Me; On the Turning Away; [A Great Day for Freedom/Poles Apart/Lost For Words/Coming Back to Life]; Sorrow; Take it Back; Keep Talking; One of These Days; Shine On; Breathe; Time; Breathe Reprise; High Hopes; Wish You Were Here; Another Brick in the Wall Part II; The Great Gig in the Sky; Us and Them; Money; Comfortably Numb; Hey You; Run Like Hell
TDB 1994 World Tour -- Set 2
Shine On; Learning to Fly; High Hopes; Take it Back; Coming Back to Life; Keep Talking; Sorrow; Another Brick in the Wall Part II; One of These Days; Dark Side of the Moon; Wish You Were Here; Comfortably Numb; Run Like Hell Players:Jon Carin keyboards, vocals Tim Renwick guitars, vocals Guy Pratt bass, vocals Gary Wallis percussion Dick Parry saxophone Durga McBroom vocals Sam Brown vocals Claudia Fontaine vocalsNOTE: Set 2 was performed in the US on July 15-18 (Detroit and New Jersey). Both sets were used throughout Europe. The Oslo shows (8/29-30/94) added "Marooned" as an encore (the only times the song was performed). Consult Piet's tour files for info on specific shows.
17. What is the address of Pink Floyd's management?
For Pink Floyd, from the "Shine On" book:
Steve O'Rourke EMKA Productions, Ltd. 43 Portland Road London, W11 4LJ 01-221 2046And, for Roger Waters:
Mark Fenwick 63a Kings Road London SW3 4NT
18. Fleudian Slips *
Not a slip itself, but since it inspired this section... On the inner sleeve of David Gilmour's About Face LP, printed in the bottom right-hand corner, is "Fleudian Slip."
- On the remastered CD of A Saucerful of Secrets (made in Holland/printed in the UK), on the CD itself the title track is spelled "...Secret."
- The Shine On set contains a fair number of errors:
- In the lyrics for "Breathe In The Air" on DSotM, the line "Don't sit down it's time to start another one" is printed; "start" should be "dig."
- There are several mistakes on the DSotM insert. Waters is incorrectly given credits on "Speak to Me" and "The Great Gig in the Sky," while Wright is (mis)credited for "On the Run."
- On the lyrics pages for WYWH, SOYCD is strangely divided. Parts I-V are so labeled, but Parts V1-IX are labeled "Part 2."
- In The Wall Disc One, on the CD insert, ABitW3 is credited twice; once (correctly) to Waters, and once (incorrectly) to Waters/Ezrin.
- The CD insert on Disc Two of The Wall leaves "The Trial" uncredited; it should be Waters/Ezrin.
- The MLoR CD insert has "Yet Another Movie" as Track 6 and "Round and Around" as Track 7. The latter should be 6a, as on the CD itself (though this may have been done for crediting reasons).
- The CD booklet of More omits credits to Gilmour and Mason on the "Dramatic Theme." Mason is also left out of the crediting for the "Main Theme."
- On the XX DSotM release, on the CD itself, track 1b is labeled "Breath in the Air." "Breathe in the Air" is the correct spelling; with "Breathe" being an accepted official shortening.
- The jewel boxes of some OBC CDs are erroneously marked ADD (analog recording, digital mixing/editing, digital mastering). As is written on the CD itself, they are AAD. (I've also heard of this happening on both More and Meddle.)
- David Gilmour's name tends to get misspelled quite a bit. It's spelled "Glimour" on the inside credits of some versions of the Final Cut CD, while some ASoS releases have it as "Gilmore." It's also "Gilmore" on the credits to the film, "More" (though this may have been an intentional play on words).
- In the Dark Side of the Moon guitar tablature book, "Any Colour You Like" is listed as "Breathe (Second Reprise)"
- The US CD booklet of David Gilmour adds a preceeding "It's" to the title of "Deafinitely." The title is printed correctly on the disc itself.
- In the printed lyrics for "What God Wants Part I", some versions of ATD have "The alien cried prophet" written; "prophet cried" is what's sung.
19. All about Quadraphonics +
Quadraphonic systems allow the recording and reproduction of four distinct channels of sound (as opposed to the two channels of standard stereo). The system the Floyd used for their three Quad albums (Atom Heart Mother, DSotM, and WYWH) was also known as "the SQ system." The following is an explanation of the system taken from a quad LP, and some additional notes, both courtesy Aaro Koskinen.
19.1 How the SQ system works +
The SQ systems enables four channels of sound to be reproduced from the left and right hand walls of the groove of an LP record.
To attain this it has been necessary to develop two devices - the Encoder to convert four signals from the quadraphonic master tape to two signals and the Decoder to decipher these complex signals and convert them back again to four separate signals for reproduction from four loudspeakers.
With the two additional channels of the quadraphonic tape, the Encoder produces two additional modulation components.
The SQ disc, then, carries in its grooves four encoded signals.
To decipher these four signals and recreate the quadraphonic sources, the SQ Decoder is needed. The Decoder senses the four basic modulations and produces four signals containing predominantly the sounds of the corresponding original four quadraphonic tape channels.
For the SQ system, these are:
- Front left
- major left w/ minor feeds to rear left and front right
- Front right
- major right w/ minor feeds to front left and rear right
- Rear left
- major rear left w/ minor feeds to front left and rear right
- Rear right
- major rear right w/ minor feeds to rear left and front right
These signals are then directed to power amplifiers and four loudspeakers placed in the respective corners of the listening area, resulting in a realistic reproduction of the original quadraphonic master tape.
However, no special pickup is needed. Stereo pickup cartridges are capable of receiving all of these modulations.
19.2 What do I need to play Quad albums?
The only special equipment you need is a "SQ decoder", which you place on the turntable (cartridge) output leads. Then you need of course two amps and four speakers.
Apparently the decoders are no longer being manufactured.
BTW, if you play Quad LPs without decoder, the result is just normal stereo.
20. Some words about RoIOs +
Recordings of Illegitimate/Indeterminate Origin are the topic of much of the discussion that goes on, on the 'net, and so it seemed wise to make some comments about them...
20.1 Why use 'RoIO'?
There are various reasons for this, but the foremost is that, even if your mail is secure, when you post to a mailing list or newsgroup, your words are being broadcast all over the world, to places that are potentially far from secure. Mail involving certain illegitimate items could get you and the recipient of your message into a fair amount of trouble. Also, using the "b" (footwear) word on the various 'net forums (echoes or the newsgroups) could attract unwanted attention to them, to the detriment of everyone.
20.2 Where can I get RoIOs? +
Local stores are a good place to try first. Avoid the larger chains, such as Tower, Music Plus, Wherehouse, Sam Goody, etc. Instead shop around at the smaller, independent shops. Stores in large cities and college towns are good places to look, as that's where much of the demand is. Try also asking for "rare" or "concert" recordings, "imports," albums made by Great Dane (for example), and that sort of thing.
The other main method of acquiring RoIOs is through tape trades. You'll find many people willing to trade tapes with you -- just ask people to send you their lists. And, for those beginning collections, some nice folks will even take blank tapes in payment, if you have nothing to trade.
NOTE: While we're on the subject, please do not post lists of RoIO dealers and their locations to the 'net. This is a very easy way to make them ex-RoIO dealers -- they are, in general, uncomfortable with a lot of attention. Plus, posting their location could attract the wrong sort of attention (it's rare, but it happens more than you might think). Likewise, if you want to mail a response to someone asking for RoIO dealer locations, a certain amount of circumspection is in order.
20.3 What are some good RoIOs? +
While the echoes database (see Q20.6) is good for checking out particular RoIOs, it's cumbersome to use to find a general list of good-quality recordings. With this in mind, Herwig Henseler has put together a nice guide to some of the better RoIOs, for those starting collections or looking for recordings from a certain tour.
You can get this guide by mailing the following to "echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com"
get roio_guide.051294 roio quitOr, using a WWW browser, you can access it in full hypertext format at http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~herwig/roio/guide.html You can contact Herwig at "Herwig.Henseler@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE"
20.4 Where can I find lists of RoIOs? +
A good source is a book called Hot Wacks. It's not available in most book stores, but you may be able to find it in record shops. Or you can order it directly:
Hot Wacks Press Owen Sound, Ontario Canada N4K 5R1The 1992 XV Edition has a chapter devoted to Pink Floyd, as well as 20+ pages of PF RoIO listings. Cost is US $16.95 plus $6 surface mail or $16 air mail. Supplements are printed periodically -- Supplements 1 and 2 are available.
20.5 What are these 'Trance Remix' albums? *
They're RoIOs -- but rather than offering live or unreleased "Pink Floyd" music, they feature Floyd songs remixed to sound more "ambient." Such music is difficult to describe -- think of the child of a "Saucerful of Secrets" and "Another Brick in the Wall, pt.2" union...
Trance remix versions are available of many Pink Floyd albums: Meddle, OBC, DSotM, WYWH, Animals, The Wall, and MLoR; as well as remixes that mix and match Floyd albums, such as Welcome to the Remix.
NOTE: Some of these albums are rumored to have been done by such groups as The Orb, The KLF, and Nine Inch Nails' Trent Reznor. About the only evidence for such claims I know of is that some trance remix albums feature samples from songs done by these groups. And, as some people have pointed out, the quality of these albums isn't altogether what one would expect from the people mentioned.
20.6 How do I know if a RoIO is any good?
Thanks to the efforts of the folks on the Echoes mailing list and others around the net, there has been compiled a database of many of the more popular RoIOs. For each item listed, information is (usually) given regarding tracks, playing time, relative quality, and anything else appropriate.
The database can be accessed in two main ways: via the World Wide Web and via the mail-based "echoserv" database. To use the WWW database, you need the appropriate software, such as Mosaic. The address of the database is
http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~herwigFor those without WWW access, the echoserv database functions via e-mail. For a list of all the RoIOs available in the database, send the following commands to "echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com"
filelist RoIO quit(commands should be lowercase and left-justified) This will send you back a list of files, with each file describing a particular RoIO. To retrieve information on that RoIO, use the "send" command, followed by the filename, and then the word "RoIO" You can ask for as many files as you like at a time, one "send" request per line. The last command should be "quit"
send <filename1> RoIO send <filename2> RoIO ... quitThe mail-based list processor at the heart of echoserv will then mail you information on the RoIOs you requested.
If have a RoIO that is not in the database, please obtain the "blank" file from the database, which is a blank form. Fill out the form and send it to
RoIO-maint@fawnya.tcs.comorRoIO@fawnya.tcs.comIf you have additional comments you'd like make about a RoIO already in the database, use the same address.
NOTE: Naturally, none of this should be taken as condoning the actual purchase of this sort of thing where it is deemed illegal -- simply consider all this as just a further collection of Floyd trivia.
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